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The Great International Maple Syrup Delivery

Nickolas Christopher

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The Great International Maple Syrup Delivery
« on: March 12, 2017, 01:19:04 PM »


The Canadians have some extra delectable maple syrup they'd like to share with the West Coast! Fire up your freighters and help them deliver Canadian syrupy goodness!

Date: Saturday, May 13, 2017
Time: 2000-0300Z
Departure Window: 2000-2200Z

CYYZ-KLAX

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URSAL2.KASED GRB KG84K MCW OBH HCT TBC JASSE Q90 DNERO.ANJLL1
URSAL2.ZOHAN ZOHAN GRB KP87K KP87G RWF KP87A KD78U OCS KU66Q MLF WINEN Q73 HAKMN HAKMN.ANJLL1
GOPUP1.HOCKE Q824 FNT PMM BDF IRK GCK J96 CIM DRK J231 HIPPI GABBL.HLYWD1
« Last Edit: April 28, 2017, 09:19:19 AM by Nickolas Christopher »

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Re: The Great International Maple Syrup Delivery
« Reply #1 on: March 12, 2017, 02:55:42 PM »
Sounds like a great event!  Question -- have you arranged for CTR staffing for all the enroute Centers that the flights will be passing through?

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Re: The Great International Maple Syrup Delivery
« Reply #2 on: March 12, 2017, 05:11:19 PM »
Sounds like a great event!  Question -- have you arranged for CTR staffing for all the enroute Centers that the flights will be passing through?
We're putting all of that together now based on the routes. One route involves different and fewer ARTCCs than the other.

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Re: The Great International Maple Syrup Delivery
« Reply #3 on: March 12, 2017, 06:25:27 PM »
Sounds like a great event!  Question -- have you arranged for CTR staffing for all the enroute Centers that the flights will be passing through?
We're putting all of that together now based on the routes. One route involves different and fewer ARTCCs than the other.

Apologies Nick, I must have missed the initial coordination email with VATCAN.
Please keep me in the loop on this event.

Thanks.

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Re: The Great International Maple Syrup Delivery
« Reply #4 on: March 12, 2017, 07:08:28 PM »
Sounds like a great event!  Question -- have you arranged for CTR staffing for all the enroute Centers that the flights will be passing through?
We're putting all of that together now based on the routes. One route involves different and fewer ARTCCs than the other.

Apologies Nick, I must have missed the initial coordination email with VATCAN.
Please keep me in the loop on this event.

Thanks.

I'm working on this with Gary Feddema, who proposed the idea. I'm coordinating from the ZLA/USA side.

I'm sure we will work out any potential conflicts if any crop up.

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Re: The Great International Maple Syrup Delivery
« Reply #5 on: March 12, 2017, 09:22:59 PM »
Sounds like a great event!  Question -- have you arranged for CTR staffing for all the enroute Centers that the flights will be passing through?
We're putting all of that together now based on the routes. One route involves different and fewer ARTCCs than the other.
While fewer may be easier to coordinate, more is more fun for both pilots and controllers! ;)

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Re: The Great International Maple Syrup Delivery
« Reply #6 on: May 11, 2017, 07:41:31 PM »
Which CTR's will be online for this

just wondering so I can use a different routing based on the one filed by Westjet today, routing slightly north, basically over Chicago to avoid

AIRMET TURB...NE KS IA MO WI LM MI IL IN KY
FROM 20NE MKG TO 40S ECK TO FWA TO CVG TO HNN TO HMV TO RZC TO
OSW TO 50W LBL TO 50S GLD TO 50S ODI TO 20NE MKG
MOD TURB BTN FL240 AND FL410. CONDS CONTG BYD 03Z THRU 09Z.

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Re: The Great International Maple Syrup Delivery
« Reply #7 on: May 11, 2017, 09:35:35 PM »
Which CTR's will be online for this

just wondering so I can use a different routing based on the one filed by Westjet today, routing slightly north, basically over Chicago to avoid

AIRMET TURB...NE KS IA MO WI LM MI IL IN KY
FROM 20NE MKG TO 40S ECK TO FWA TO CVG TO HNN TO HMV TO RZC TO
OSW TO 50W LBL TO 50S GLD TO 50S ODI TO 20NE MKG
MOD TURB BTN FL240 AND FL410. CONDS CONTG BYD 03Z THRU 09Z.


Depends on the weather for that day.

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Re: The Great International Maple Syrup Delivery
« Reply #8 on: May 12, 2017, 12:54:42 PM »
What Will said.

Also, for pilots flying in, take a look at the new ILS RWY 25L transitions.
http://155.178.201.160/d-tpp/1705/00237IL25L.PDF

If you have one of the newer AIRACs, you should have the new ILS RWY 25L IAFs. (If you have the ANJLL1 or HLYWD1 arrivals, you've got these.)

There are three IAFs used on ILS runway 24R and 25L approaches for arrivals coming from the east: CRCUS, SEAVU and CLPUR. The ANJLL and HLYWD STARs feed to CRCUS and SEAVU. You'll likely hear this from your approach controller: "Descend via the ANJLL1/HLYWD1 arrival, at SEAVU/CRCUS, cleared ILS runway 24R/25L approach."

Now, specifically check out the new CLPUR IAF (initial approach fix). If things get busy, your friendly approach controller may let you know to expect CLPUR for ILS runway 25L approach. You should continue the arrival, but setup your FMS to take the CLPUR IAF. You'll get instructions on when to proceed direct CLPUR and be cleared on the approach.

Why? The CLPUR IAF moves 25L arrivals a little further south. This keeps them separated from 24R arrivals so they can be run side by side. This means more efficient flow for everyone.

Let me know if you have any questions.